@david-rosenblatt Hi David thx for reply! Look if you are confident enough - its no problem to say Page 1 (top 10) - but never 1st of the first ;-)! I never had problems to get in the top 10 (local bizz) But yes - it really depends which branch sometimes! A client will never be happy with page 2 ,-)! There is no lead generation there possible! But off course - when a company is just starting from 0 and see the grow to position 20-30 its great! But without Offpage optimizitation - it will stay there (in a competitive industry)! Best wishes