New Premium Plans and CMS Limits (Data Platform is Dead)

There’s others too that may even be better if you’re a developer. I think like Bildr, I’m not one so I need something simple and offers more things in one there’s even one called flutterflow where you can create native apps and web apps and you can export your code.

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Thanks a lot! I’m going to look into it since WIX makes changes without warning that impact our work. I need to find a more stable platform and one that doesn’t change its pricing plan without warning and forcing our hand!

I looked into a bunch of Wix alternatives once all of these Wix issues arose. I personally didn’t like Bubble because it’s mostly drag-and-drop with less customization available (and less ability to code around the out-of-the-box options they offer).

As for Bildr, I didn’t try it because it has a similar pricing/data cap to what Wix is moving to, but then again, if we’re going to have to pay more than $100/month, maybe it’s worth diving into Bildr if their functionality is better (don’t know yet)… and it looks like it might be $50 cheaper per month for the highest non-enterprise option:

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Yea bubble’s editor as a whole is great imo so I’m going to only use it for the web app part of my site and continue to use studio for the landing pages and blog for now and will get the lowest plan.

I didn’t actually try out bildr but looked into it. Flutterflow looks good too, I played with it but seemed more complicated than bubble to me and bubble just has a lot of flexibility to build with no code so I’m rocking with them for now. They’re finally also bringing in the ability to built a native app, an actual custom native app which I’m looking to do in the near future. (Flutterflow has this now along with their AI builder), you can export your code there also.

I started to receive warnings on my site about exceeding the collection row limits a few days ago. In looking at the number of rows Wix calculates I have versus the limit, something looked off. After a long chat with Wix Customer Care, they confirmed that their number of rows calculation includes both live collections and sandbox collections. This means that a 10,000 row limit really means 5,000 rows in live collections. I have a ticket open with Wix to look into this, but have not heard anything yet.

@noahlovell Well, it’s getting to be too much for my taste, so when can we expect a solution?

I sincerely think that it would be a good idea for WIX to communicate clear information, either you do this update or you don’t, but tell us what has been chosen !

Beyond that, when you add an external collection, does the data quota apply to the number of rows in external collections, since they are linked as a collection to WIX, or do only internal collections use the new quota?

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@Lucas_dev Still working on getting more info regarding the CMS limits…

As far as the data quota question, the limits apply only on internal databases. :+1:

Request limits for read/write operations are still apply on external collection rest of the limits are not applied to external collections.

Hey @loeiks and others in this topic!

We just shared an update about this in the Studio Discord.

We’ve heard all your feedback, and I want to share with you that we are looking into reducing the price of our highest tier plan, as well as removing some plan-based Velo limits.

As part of our ongoing efforts, in the next few days, we will trial changes in the pricing plan to accommodate the feedback we received.

We are also aiming to provide a more tailored solution to your needs, once the teams will review the impact of this trial, we’ll communicate any changes transparently to all Partners and users. :slight_smile:

Read all the details here - Discord

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I’ve just looked at it, it’s a great improvement, thank you! However, I don’t see any progress on the number of CMS elements? This was one of the crucial points in our discussions.

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Glad you think so :slight_smile:

As mentioned in the post, “We are aiming to provide a more tailored solution to your needs, once the teams will review the impact of this, we’ll communicate any changes transparently to all Partners and users”

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So it’s a little teaser, but not all the enhancements have been presented yet, right?

@Lucas_dev I think you’re along the right lines :wink:

I really love working with Wix. However, with the upgrade to Wix Studio I was disappointed in terms of limits. Which directly impacts the scalability of applications developed with wix. I’m not just talking about the issue of limits, but because it’s not clear what it will be like when those limits are reached.
This topic is extremely relevant, as there is a large community of JS developers who use the platform by combining the drag and drop tool with the programming language.

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As an update to my earlier post, I received a reply on my ticket on 11/22. That reply seemed to indicate that the aggregate row limit only applied to live databases, not sandbox databases. Very confusing. Regardless of what the limit is or should be, we need to clearly understand what any limit applies to. That should not be a hard question to answer/document.

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I believe we’ve covered most aspects of the issue. It’s a significant obstacle for us, and I propose considering a pay-as-you-go model similar to Google Cloud. The current pricing gaps seem too wide, and a more user-friendly approach would be allowing clients to pay for what they actually need. The unlimited storage concept is perplexing when coupled with limitations on CMS entries, especially considering that CMS entries don’t directly correlate with physical resource usage.

A more sensible approach might be to shift towards a payment model based on storage, with the flexibility to purchase additional storage in increments of 100 GB.

In general, I think the optimal solution would be to introduce a pay-as-you-go option beyond the $30 price plan. This not only simplifies the sales pitch to new clients but also eliminates concerns about scalability problems.

To highlight the urgency of this matter, let’s consider a practical example of how rapidly the 100k limitation can be reached. Take a platform like Airbnb: imagine 1,000 users, each with an average of 2 properties, resulting in 2,000 rows. Add 1,000 more rows for the members, totaling 3,000. If users can rate both a property and its owner, hitting the limit is almost inevitable with an average of 34 ratings per user and property. This soesnt even include other tables such as activities or a table for a cantactlist for porpert owners for example or the sandbox. The consequence is an inclination to cram as much information as possible into a single row, risking performance issues instead of organizing data more efficiently.

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Hi!

Thanks for being receptive to these concerns.
The new write limits seem indeed unsustainable.
Looking forward to discovering how you mitigate them in a meaningful way :sun_with_face:

All the best

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They were testing new plans but still haven’t heard anything.

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As a further update, it appears that the item limit quota is now only being calculated on live collections only, not the combination of live and sandbox. Progress.

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Hello,

Problem, for all those who are in this channel, know that our fight continues because the PLUS and STANDARD plans have kept their item limits… This means that for $38 you can have a maximum of 10,000 items, and if you reach the limit you’ll be charged $178 per month for only 100,000 items… In the end, wix didn’t really listen to our requests. If you want to support us, don’t hesitate to read this post and comment with your opinion:

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