Hi, agree entiry, please share your experience with alternatives to leave wix without loosing too much of our developments, best regards
I have a website running since 2 years and there are many projects ongoing. But this restriction is enroute to kill all my 2 years of work and I might have to start everything from scratch.
Hey y’all! So it seems like Wix really did listen to our feedback! I just watched their Open Studio recap (https://www.wix.com/studio/event/open-studio/january-2024) and in it they mentioned the following:
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CMS item limits: Once a site gets close to 100k items, we will be able to purchase additional item tiers to meet our needs. They didn’t mention what the tiered pricing will look like, but that’s great that we’ll now have the flexibility to scale as our sites need.
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Read/Write limitations: They mentioned that the monthly read/write limitations have been removed, though they didn’t discuss what levels will be set for any read/write limits per hour (or minute). I guess we’ll have to keep our eyes open for more detailed information coming (hopefully) soon.
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NPM Installation: FINALLY, the wix studio npm installation process seems to be reverting back to what we had with EditorX where we could install NPMs directly without a bunch of additional steps, etc.
For those who watched the Open Studio or saw some of the announcements here and on Discord, are there any additional areas or major concerns that you felt they didn’t address?
Cheers team!
Ohhh really, there were a bunch of steps for NPM-installations?
I even did not see it, good to know that i also will not see it in my future! THANKS !!!
@russian-dima Yup! Here’s the Wix Head of Dev/Code explaining it (as well as the other changes) much better than I did: https://youtu.be/BiwI-6ulbmQ?si=TMCJzgowzw4tqJA4&t=1150
Hello,
Problem, for all those who are in this channel, know that our fight continues because the PLUS and STANDARD plans have kept their item limits… This means that for $38 you can have a maximum of 10,000 items, and if you reach the limit you’ll be charged $178 per month for only 100,000 items… In the end, wix didn’t really listen to our requests. If you want to support us, don’t hesitate to read this post and comment with your opinion :
Hello,
Thank you for the efforts on both sides to find a solution that makes sense.
This solution suggested earlier appears to be consistent with both Wix’s and the active developers agendas.
It seems to align efficiently with the recent plans updates while making it easier for everyone to absorb the cost of scaling progressively.
Thankful for the attention and care you all put in improving this great platform.
Best
Ok, I’m back, I left WIX STUDIO aside for a few months, to see if it would be able to listen to the developers, but at first glance it’s still the same thing. And I was expecting it…
Funny, now that we’re not talking, WIX is hiding the problem. Overall, WIX still doesn’t meet developers’ expectations. WIX sells itself as a platform for developers, but still imposes its absurd limit on CMS quotas, and yes, I’m weighing my words carefully !
Overall it would be simple for WIX to set up storage in GB, with the possibility for developers to increase this limit according to customer needs and even if WIX decides to keep a quota limit, we would simply like to be able to increase the number of lines without paying $170 per month! I think it’s not complicated to understand and it’s quite simple to set up!
And again today, all my back-end code remained inactive on my site for over 3 hours, due to an internal bug with them… I honestly don’t know what to do! I don’t understand why WIX attacks developers so much and cares so little about consolidating its back-end system.
The funny thing is that for the past few months I’ve been seeing a lot of developers complaining about WIX’s service, but at the same time it’s normal, quotas are too low with very high prices, the competition is better and the reliability of the service leaves a lot to be desired.
I’d like to hear your opinions, and see if you’re still active in re-launching the subject, because WIX still doesn’t live up to our expectations!
Don’t hesitate to comment with your opinion on the situation!
Hi all
I am the IT admin of a small charity in the UK and have suddenly found out today about this CMS limit being applied to our plan (Core). This is going to seriously challenge our operations, which provides volunteer driving for medical appointments in our area. As an emergency measure it seems I will need to remove almost all the historic data we have and store it elsewhere offline. This is not scalable going forward; we need to keep our client data for 3 years and now we can’t do that on WiX.
Some history for you: I moved our IT system across to WiX from Zoho 2 years ago precisely because we could no longer afford Zoho’s pricing per user account. WiX seemed great then, with easily enough storage, no artificial limit on how many user logins I could create (we only need less than 10 anyway!) and no artificial row limits for our (tiny!) database of a few thousand records.
Now I see the price went up 60% and our database no longer works
I totally agree, such a limitation on number of records makes really no sense - sure, limit the transaction rates, that’s understandable. But honestly, I can run a database of 500k records with sqllite3 on a 32-bit NAS with entirely acceptable performance!
If this does not improve, I will consider re-writing our IT system again for Wordpress and moving to my own back end on Nextcloud. It’s not like we are a business, we are a CHARITY! I asked about charity rates and got total blanks… Slack give us business pro for FREE. We have a budget of £500/yr for IT which include 5 VoIP lines, call handling and web services. I can’t justify spending more than £16/mth just for web services!
You can keep the same codes you have right now and switch to MongoDB free (M0) cluster (or paid small clusters such as M2 or M5).
M10 can be also used which will cost around 50-60$/m but it’s dedicated cluster in AWS.
Then checkout the package we have created for people who might want to switch from WixData to another similar solution (WixData also uses MongoDB internally).
You can contact me for more questions or help so we can migrate your existing database to MongoDB and keep it running with almost the same code as you have right now.
Contact me via Discord my nickname is loeiks.
Thanks @loeiks I appreciate I can run a DB back end elsewhere. If I’m doing that, I might was well move the rest of the site and cut this WiX garbage entirely, it’s literally 4 data entry pages and simple user account management
I started out here thinking these low-code solutions would save me time and allow me to train less experienced people to support our IT when I’m not around. Not working out that way… I already added hundreds of lines in Velo to integrate with Slack API and had to learn management of Slack and WiX platforms. Adding another platform is too much system complexity for me. Thanks for the offer
Np I agree that Wix CMS system were better before these interesting update. They should revert item based limit to mb/gb limits again. But I’m pretty sure that they won’t.
The problem with restrictions for Wix CMS will remain relevant.
I spent more than 2 years developing a website with complex logic and a lot of code.
When choosing the “Business” plan, there was a 10 GB limit for collections. Based on these limitations, development was carried out. But the Wix team unilaterally, without taking into account the opinion of the community, reduced the limits.
To give you an idea, for most collections, 10,000 records take up 10 MB. I could understand if, in order to save money, they reduced the limit to 1 GB. It would be possible to work with a limit of 1 GB. But the limit is reduced by 1000 times to 10 MB (corresponding to 10,000 records). This is a mockery of the developers.
Also, the plan was purchased until 2025, and Wix, for its part, did not fulfill the obligations under the contract.
Due to such a failed policy by Wix management, many users have requested refunds for plans. And Wix was faced with the problem of exceeding the permissible limits for “charge back” from Visa and MasterCard.
@noahlovell Can you see the example in this comment and please feed this back to the team in charge of the CMS price increase please?
This user is only using 14.46MB, yet the new system is saying this is too much purely because that’s dispersed amongst 52K items. All developers know that this is an arbitrary unit of measurement as server space is the only concern on Wix’s end. I could upload 1GB of images and see no price increase, yet this user would need to pay $170+/mo (and that’s just the price now) so they can store 14MB of DB entries.
I haven’t logged into this forum in a while, but it’s very sad to see that so many Wix developers are still raising this very large issue and Wix is doing nothing about it. Please help us pass this message on, beyond working with you and the forum admins, I’m not sure how we can get this point across any further.
If you have any direct points of contact, please post them here and we can all contact them directly about the issue.
I totally agree but I don’t think so that they will change these limits and revert back to old GB based limits. Which in your case 512mb storage space is even a lot to use.
The reason I think they won’t change it because most of the Wix’s competitors are using item based limits and Wix has done the same things now. So if you go to squarespace, webflow or known brands you will see same interesting limit style for database.
This limit style can only make sense with Google Sheets. I don’t know any database provider out there that’s limiting their database with item limits.
The imposed limitations are truly absurd. However, it seems that @noahlovell has been given directives by WIX to avoid this issue, contrary to their usual responses within three days.
It appears that WIX is trying to discourage us, thinking we will forget or give up. But we will not yield. I have decided to persist with these matters, no matter how long it takes.
WIX has chosen to hinder developers and their projects, including those of critical importance. Now, they are ignoring essential issues.
This laughable stance will only keep these questions at the forefront, endlessly!
Hey Lucas!
As mentioned previously, I’m always sharing feedback across all areas of the community to various teams, including beyond this topic.
While I do appreciate that there are still concerns around data item quotas - I also see that there are others within the community that are, and continue to offer solutions and steps to work with other data providers too.
I’d also like to remind that toward the end of last year, we met with several developers who had raised concerns, some of which are within this topic, and provided steps at the Open Studio event in January that went towards remediating those concerns. Those steps are outlined in this article - CMS: Getting a Custom Quota to Increase Your Collection and Item Limits | Help Center | Wix.com
From chatting with other devs, I know that the above solution was greatly beneficial for them.
On top of that (as shared in another thread), sites built on EditorX will retain their original quotas as long as auto-renew is enabled (even when your EditorX site is updated to Wix Studio)
With all that being said, I do appreciate your point of view and will continue sharing and advocating for the voice of the community.
Will reach out to the team after the weekend to see if there is more information available
Thank you Noa, as I said earlier this issue will not be resolved until WIX provides a viable solution, again paying hundreds of dollars for a few collection items is not viable. Some people have had to stop charity projects, projects to help people in difficulty, all because WIX has introduced limitations without logic.
The measures provided in January didn’t address the main problem facing developers, and you know as well as I do that most of the disgruntled developers I know have stopped using WIX, which is a shame…
Anyway, it’s up to you whether you want to help developers or keep them in trouble!
Thanks for the reply, I understand that you’re very limited in your scope of what you can personally offer us here.
If we wanted to make a formal complaint about the issue or send a letter/email to someone that is the head of the department in charge of the CMS quota, how would we go about doing that?
As major developers for Wix, we feel that we should have the right to transparency here and the ability to contact people in charge of the decisions that could cost us, and our clients, thousands of dollars extra per year for no change to the service provided.
Please don’t suggest working through the support channel as that won’t go anywhere. You have my permission to send an email to the address attached to my account if you are unable to post the contact point here.